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How to Install Bathroom Floor Tile: Part 2

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by Jeff Patterson in How to Tile a Floor

Do you want to change how your bathroom looks but don’t know whether you can do it yourself? I use to feel this way, too.

In order to save money I’ve undertaken a ton of projects on my own home as well as several rental houses. I’m here to tell you that if I can do this stuff so can you.

I work hard to understand the installation process of remodeling before I begin any project.

My goal with Home Repair Tutor is to share my renovation techniques so that you’ll know exactly what to expect once you get started.

The  last post described how I prepped my brother-in-law’s wood subfloor for porcelain tile. Today I’m going to share how  and why we chose HardieBacker as  a tile underlayment.

Why should you care about HardieBacker cement board? Bathroom floor tiles are beautiful but without the right substrate they will eventually crack and allow moisture to invade your wood subfloor.

So in order to avoid these painful scenarios you’ll want to understand some of the basics involved when using a product like HardieBacker.

I Like to Share Great Products that Help Others

I’m not afraid to share fantastic products that I’ve used personally. I would never recommend any product I haven’t utilized on my own house or rental homes. That’s just my philosophy.

And since I’m constantly doing repairs or hiring contractors I feel like I’m in a good position to help other home owners with their renovations.

HardieBacker is a product I’ve installed several times for both ceramic and porcelain tile projects. I wouldn’t tile a floor without  it.

HardieBacker Cement Board for Tile Installations

Here are some benefits of using HardieBacker:

  • Composed of cement which isn’t a food source for mold
  • Contains Moldblock technology that prevents mold formation
  • Comes in 3′ by 5′ panels that are light and easy to handle
  • Has 1/4 inch and 1/2 thick panels
  • It can be cut easily by scoring and snapping
  • High compressive strength, meaning tiles laid on top won’t break when stepped on
  • Doesn’t contain asbestos, formaldehyde, fly ash, or fiberglass
  • Moisture resistant and suitable for tub or shower surrounds
  • Can be applied over wood subfloors or floors covered with vinyl products

So those are all the reasons I use HardieBacker for tile floor projects. I hope this makes sense, but if it doesn’t just ask any question you’d like in the comment section below.

Choose the Right Thickness of HardieBacker

You should use 1/4 inch thick HardieBacker for floor tile applications unless 1/2 thick panels are needed for transition purposes between adjacent rooms.

One HUGE question to ask yourself is “How thick will my new tile floor be?”.

You’ll need to do this to make sure the bathroom floor transition in the doorway won’t be awkward.

You absolutely don’t want to get done tiling then realize there is 1/2 inch difference between the height of your new tile and the carpet in the hallway (at this point you’ll definitely let out a curse word or phrase)

Make Sure Your Subfloor is Structurally Stable

Our bathroom tile installation dealt with placing HardieBacker over a wood subfloor that was composed of two layers of plywood approximately 7/8 inch thick.

The installation guide for 1/4 inch HardieBacker recommends having wood subfloors made of 5/8 inch exterior grade plywood or OSB (oriented strand board) that is 23/32 inches thick.

So how the heck do you figure this out?

You can do this one of two ways. The first is to take the air vent off the floor and see if you can measure the floor thickness.

The second sure fire way to determine the thickness of your wood subfloor is to use a hole saw to take a core sample. You can buy a 1 inch hole saw used to drill out deadbolt holes for door installations and use it for this project. I recommend getting a hole saw kit that comes with a starter drill bit.

Use a 1 Inch Hole Saw to Determine the Thickness of the Bathroom Wood Subfloor

Drill for your core sample in the center of a wood subfloor panel. This will ensure you don’t drill into a support joist below.

Take a subfloor core sample in the center of a wood panel

The last post in this series also discussed looking for any damaged subfloor. We closely investigated  areas near the vanity, toilet, and bathtub for any signs of prior water penetration.

Damaged or irregular subfloor panels need to be fixed or replaced altoghether.

 

How to Determine the Layout of HardieBacker for a Bathroom Floor

The first step in determining your HardieBacker layout is to identify all the wood subfloor joints.

Identify all wood subfloor joints

Make sure to stagger all the HardieBacker joints so they don’t align with your wood subfloor joints. You’ll also want the HardieBacker to never have four corners touching each other. In other words, HardieBacker corners should never meet at one point and make a perfect quadrant.

And finally, allow for 1/8 inch gaps between HardieBacker board edges, walls, and cabinet bases.

 

Summary Notes for HardieBacker Installation on a Wood Subfloor 

I hope this post shed light on why I like HardieBacker for tile remodeling. After reading this today you should feel more prepared to tackle any floor tile project.

I put together the summary notes below to break down the tutorial even more:

  • Determine the thickness of your new tile floor
  • Ensure the transition between the new tile and adjacent flooring isn’t awkward
  • Take a core sample of your wood subfloor (in the center of a wood panel)
  • Inspect wood subfloor panels for damage
  • Don’t align HardieBacker joints on top of wood subfloor joints
  • Don’t allow 4 corners of HardieBacker to meet at one point, stagger the panels
  • Allow HardieBacker to have 1/8 inch gaps between board edges
  • Allow HardieBacker to have 1/8 inch gaps between walls and cabinet bases
If you’re interested in more information on these topics take a look at these posts I did:

Thanks as always for reading, watching, and being part of our awesome community.

Ask your questions below and we’d be happy to help.

Talk to you soon,

Jeff Patterson

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6 Comments
  1. victoria says:

    Your tutorial is very informative. Do you need to use thinset if you are tilingother areas in the house beyond bathrooms and kitchen as the continuos flow ? If thinset is not used in living room, would it affect the tile?

    Thanks,
    Victoria

    1. You know what Victoria, I’m actually rethinking the way I tile. Moving forward I’m going to use Schluter Ditra for all floor tiling projects.

      Ditra needs to be attached to wood, concrete, etc with thinset. And the type of substrate depends on the surface the Ditra will be adhered to. But Ditra comes with really awesome directions that take the guesswork out of the installation.

      You might want to check out the Ditra instead of the Hardiebacker.

  2. Bob says:

    Jeff, nice blog. One suggestion. If you later decide to revise a method or material you’ve previously suggested, I would recommend you prominently insert notations to that effect alongside any mentions of the old methods/materials in older posts. For example, you might do it in this way: thinset (Update: I now recommend Schluter Ditra). In this case you could add a strikethrough to the word thinset, and italicize and hyperlink Schluter Ditra to an updated post explaining it. You could probably just do that to the first reference of it on the page, and maybe on any separate materials list if you also include them with a post. It really strengthens a blog to add those updated cross references, and also helps to keep older posts relevant. Keep up the good work – you are doing a fine job.

  3. This is a simple and good way to install bathroom floor tile. I like both the ways you have mentioned in this blog to install floor tile. Thanks for sharing it.

  4. Richard Burns says:

    Informative tutorial for beginners. Thanks for sharing!!

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